As John said, tie as long as possible. Sometimes after I tie the reed, de-bark it and clip the tip, the opening seems normal-sized and the sides seem to close. Reeds are not meant to last forever and by keeping a rotation of reeds in your reed case you can sound your best. ... Reed is too CLOSED. Skip navigation Sign in. A lot of oboe reeds cross my desk every month. Hi Laura — This can be maddening and the source of the problem difficult to track down, as you are finding. Use the Incra bent rule to mark the length of your shaped cane on one side: for example, if your staple length is 47 mm & your total length of blank is 75 mm, then the mark on the cane goes at 28 mm using the bent rule to measure from the top of the cane fold to the 28 mm mark on the rule. If you need to order reeds, click here to go to the shop where I sell handmade reeds. Might the cane itself (twistyness, hardness, density?) By the way, do you let your blanks dry closed, or do you clip them open before letting them rest? You can store up to 8 Oboe Reeds in this protective case. If I clip off the portion of the tip that has loose sides in an attempt to cut off the loose sides and fix the problem, the sides of the clipped reed then become loose. In one session, shape the cane, tie it, and scrape it until you have clipped the tip open. b)If it’s too open this can make the reed feel ‘hard’ and difficult to produce a controlled sound, meaning that you may be compelled to scrape the reed to make it easier. To be honest, it is rare to find a beginner who is able or willing to play the oboe for more than a few hours a week when starting out, so their first one or two reeds last for a while. My hypothesis is that very soft cane “balloons” open when tied onto the staple while rigid, hard cane would hold its shape and diameter. Oboists, we feel for you: and not just because of the double-reed misery, the duck noises, the ⦠Ideally, the sides should close with the string still one wind below the top of the tube. The tip of the reed may become frayed from trauma of tonguing and knicks from the reed case or hands. Gradually increase the air pressure until the reed speaks by itself. By pushing the reed up against the top teeth . If the reed becomes too hard, the next time try … In my experience, letting blanks dry overnight before clipping them usually leads to reeds with more manageable (less huge) openings. However the environment of the reed can allow some germs to proliferate beyond the point of control. Is the cane warped? Oboe Reedmaking. I’m not sure what we can do with this observation. Brand new reeds may tend to seem too open at first, and likewise, older reeds might be the ones that collapse on you. Good luck, Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total) Author I clip my reeds open before I let them dry. If the opening is too small the reed may not accept the air stream and the low notes will feel labored and unstable. As you get above 5,000 feet, and often into a dry climate, the reeds will vibrate less. Slight variations in temperature, altitude, weather, and climate can also have an effect on the sound of the reed, as well as minute changes in the physique of the reed. Do you think that letting them dry overnight before clipping them would make them even more open? I have been to a few teachers but the problem has pretty much stumped them. How to tell if your oboe reed is broken or needs replacing. I soak my cane for about 25 minutes before I tie it. Sometimes they are so open that they will not even crow, or they just sound like a goose (only one pitch) when I attempt to crow them. Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total). Keeping your reeds in a reed case and not in the plastic tube or coffin it came it will help as well. Make sure the overlap is correct. click here to go to the shop where I sell handmade reeds. C. Corners of the mouth are turned up (in a smile) 1. This is opposed by the rails of the reed which pull clockwise to a neutral and stable result. There is no remedy. However, adjusting your oboe reeds to resolve this is not too complex. Trent, you bring up an interesting point. Home ⺠Forums ⺠Reeds ⺠The Oboe Reed Room ⺠Top of oboe reed will not close This topic has 10 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 4 months ago by Andrew R. Nogal. My colleague is a seasoned oboist and reed maker. Let sit for another minute.-The opening should be about the height of a Dime. A thin and sloped tip allow the reed to give a warm sound with easy response. The angle of the head (too high or too low) (angle of the oboe in the mouth âbring it down) 2. I hadn’t encountered consistent trouble with big tip openings until perhaps a year and a half ago. If it is too loud, the reed will be too hard to play easily; if it is too soft, the reed will feel "limited" and not project well. However, after letting my reeds sit for a few hours, they all seem to go back to that same archetype: horrifyingly open and low-crowing. D. Reed Problem: 1. A reed that is no longer functional has three key indicators that will reveal if it needs replacing. ... Find out why Close. If the reed is too hard too open too closed 1. As always keep a few reeds broken in and in rotation. Please read my articles on Oboe Reed Soaking, and Adjusting Flat oboe reeds for … 3. What should I do if the reed seems too hard? If the reed is too closed, you will not get much life out of the reed, though will likely open up when soaked. Possible Cause: Either the reed is too closed (and likely old), and/or the embouchure is too tight. I have other strategies for getting the most life from your reeds in an article I wrote which you can read by clicking here. 1. At first only the low notes will stop working and eventually nothing will sound right. Soak the reed for 1-3 minutes or until the reed is the correct strength – a shorter amount of time if the reed is newer, and longer if the reed is older or more closed. Just keep the caliper set at the staple length. Pitch (sharp or flat or change depending on note) 4. Oboe reeds that are too open will normally be flat and while it is largely determined by everything you do before tying a reed, here are a few strategies to help your reed making. Mold…enough said…. Home › Forums › Reeds › The Oboe Reed Room › Top of oboe reed will not close. Bethany shows you how to fix an oboe reed that's playing too flat in this quick tip video. For an oboe reed to work at it's best (vibrate at its optimum level) it needs the be correctly balanced; the reed should have the same thickness of cane on both front and back blades and on each half of both blades (see diagram, left).. Please reach out to us with any questions about our selection of oboe knives. Molds will often show up as fruiting bodies or black colonies, while bacteria will often form films along the inside of the reed. I gouge with a Dan Ross gouger & tie my reeds at 75 mm on Stevens pro-brass 47 mm using the David Weber 1B shaper. I think at this point I would try anything to make the opening smaller. While each player has personal preferences for reed opening, a medium opening from cane with a 9.75-10.5mm diameter is generally accepted. By pushing the reed up against the top teeth . Unfortunately, I don’t believe that there’s any way to “scrape out” the traits of a badly tied blank, no matter how good one’s knife technique may be. 1. 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